Send inquiries regarding the operation of this Web site to webmaster@ucg.org. man's present life is under the sun, and is continued as long as I. Who knows anything? He's very loving. HIM IN HIS TOILS THROUGHOUT THE DAYS OF HIS LIFE WHICH GOD HA 14-17 Faith alone can establish the heart in this mixed scene, where THERE IS A VANITY WHICH IS DONE UPON THE EARTH.] Instead, somewhat surprisingly, he urges us to enjoy life: to eat, drink, and be merry. This comes straight from other Scripture, God stating that it would be well for those who feared and obeyed Him, with their days prolonged (Deuteronomy 5:29 Deuteronomy 5:29O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!American King James Version; Deuteronomy 6:2 Deuteronomy 6:2That you might fear the LORD your God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you, you, and your son, and your son's son, all the days of your life; and that your days may be prolonged.American King James Version, Deuteronomy 6:24 Deuteronomy 6:24And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.American King James Version). 16 When I applied mine heart to know wisdom, and to see the business that is done upon the earth: (for also there is that neither day nor night seeth sleep with his eyes:) 17 Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labour to seek it out, yet he shall not find it; yea further; though a wise man think to know it, yet shall he not be able to find it. Of the righteous and the wicked (Ecclesiastes 8:11) He hasn't come and He's not going to come. Notice that the Preacher is giving us a God-centered perspective and that in verse 15 he is talking about the days of our life as a gift from God. 3: quid habet amplius homo de universo labore suo quod laborat sub sole. a Keeping this in mind results in a deep and abiding reverence for Godloving and trusting Him while recognizing His supreme power and holiness (see Hebrews 12:28-29 Hebrews 12:28-29 [28] Why we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: DEATH OF THE WICKED. Then I commended mirth, because a man has no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun. $15.99 As low as $8.00. and who knows the interpretation of a thing? 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The Preaching the Word commentary notes: Usually the Preacher tells us what he saw, but this time he chooses a different verb and tells us something that he knows. This is not something that he has seen from a distance, but something he has grasped with the rational conviction of his own mind. Mirth therefore, and a contented enjoyment of God's gifts, preferable to immoderate care and search, Ecclesiastes 8:15. Honor the king.American King James Version). The king stands as the authority. But that does not seem to be the main point of these verses in Ecclesiastes 8. Ecclesiastes 8:15 NIV - So I commend the enjoyment of life, - Bible Gateway Read the Bible Reading Plans Advanced Search Available Versions Audio Bibles Study Tools Scripture Engagement More Resources Explore More Newsletters Devotionals Bible Gateway App Bible Audio App Bible Gateway Blog Bible Gateway Plus Store Bibles Deals More Passage He, for his part, had applied his heart to know this wisdom, and to see the business that is done, by the divine Providence, upon the earth, to find out if there were any certain scheme, any constant rule or method, by which the affairs of this lower world were administered, any course of government as sure and steady as the course of nature, so that by what is done now we might as certainly foretel what will be done next as by the moon's changing now we can foretel when it will be at the full; this he would fain have found out. American King James Version; and read all of this psalm). I counsel thee to keep the king's commandmen 1 Timothy 4:3; 1 Timothy 4:4; 1 Timothy 6:17; Ecclesiastes 2:24; EAT, AND TO DRINK, AND TO BE MERRY. But he does not dwell on that. ( Ecclesiastes 8:5-7 ). Benson Commentary Ecclesiastes 8:14-15. One of the common mistakes that people make is that of misinterpreting the nature of God. Verse 15. "I'm a prosperous cheat, so God is condoning my cheating. alter; for that shall abide with him of his labour the days physical senses, but also frequently to religious joy. Yet His intervention and judgment will ultimately come. [28] Which yet my soul seeks, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found. When the time comes for you to die, you don't have any power over your spirit to retain it, to cause your spirit to remain. ECCLESIASTES 8:14. 3. They will wait for a suitable opportunity to act, then act in such a way that, though they do not disobey the king, neither do they sin against their conscience (2-5).Despite the compromise he recommends, the writer knows that people remain uneasy about the outcome and about the future in general. speaks in the person of the libertine, representing the objections of ECCLESIASTES 8:14, it is best to give a man's self up to eating and Verse 7 in context presents more about the need for discerning the right time and way. The memory of the just is blessed: but the name of the wicked shall rot. Yes, there is vanity under the sun. Wisdom can enable a person to avoid the kings wrath (Ecclesiastes 8:2-9), but it cannot enable him or her to understand fully why God deals with people as He does (Ecclesiastes 8:10-17). He would not have us try to give a reason for what God does. It will help us through the quandary that still remains for this age. That both he himself and many others had very closely studied the point, and searched far into the reasons of the prosperity of the wicked and the afflictions of the righteous. That Jesus isn't coming again. They know they have no control over life or death. verba Ecclesiastes filii David regis Hierusalem. Ecclesiastes 8:14-15 Solomon reminds us that, as life falls out for us, we frequently do not understand it. TEXT 8:14-17 American King James Version). God has given him; this is what had been observed before, ( We come now to the last part of the books third major section, which began in chapter 6, dealing with explaining and applying the plan of God in light of it seeming to be unfair. In Encountering Ecclesiastes, James Limburg relates what fellow biblical scholar and commentator Roland Murphy said to him in response to the issue of the author of Ecclesiastes being often referred to as a great doubter: The great doubter? When I applied mine heart to know wisdom, and to see the business that is done upon the earth: (for also there is that neither day nor night seeth sleep with his eyes:) Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labor to seek it out, yet he shall not find it; yea farther; though a wise man think to know it, yet shall he not be able to find it ( Ecclesiastes 8:16-17 ). Note that the obedience to the king is for the sake of your oath to God (same verse). Then, besides the perspective we need to have and the righteous life we are to persist in, we are again given the prescription of the books refrain in the third major sections conclusionthe enjoyment of life that God blesses us with: to eat, drink, and be merry (Ecclesiastes 8:15 Ecclesiastes 8:15Then I commended mirth, because a man has no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun.American King James Version). There is no use in repining or rebelling; _true wisdom We'll send you an email with steps on how to reset your password. righteous men to whom it happens ac Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide and who knows the interpretation of a thing? He doesn't strike immediately, but oftentimes forestalls judgment for months, for years. 4: generatio praeterit et generatio advenit terra vero in aeternum stat. Though a man be ever so industrious, thou he labour to seek it out. thankfulness for what they have, and a free and comfortable use Many claim that the death penalty is an ineffective deterrent to capital crime today. Notice as well that he mentions joy twice in this verse and describes it as something we can experience all through life. Some translate the word ruach here as breath (of life) rather than spirit, but that would not change the point here. Here are given the four uncertainties mentioned above, the verse means that, "Not even great wealth will enable the wealthy to defy these limitations." [15] No discharge in war regards the uncertainty that threatens one who may be drafted into a war by some absolute monarch. The scope of these verses is to keep subjects loyal and dutiful to the government. SUN EXCEPT TO EAT AND TO DRINK AND TO BE MERRY, AND THIS WILL STAND BY And thus, it appears that the evil man is getting away with his evil actions, his evil deeds. (Note: Vid., Baer in Abodath Jisrael, p. But it is tragic when people misinterpret God's patience and God's kindness. Ecclesiastes 8 Commentary, this verse-by-verse commentary contain gems of information found nowhere outside the ancient Jewish writings . But in context the wording appears to continue the warning about not getting into trouble with the government. The fear of the LORD prolongs days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened. The New American Commentary quotes an alternate translation of the verse: All this I have seen and have given attention to every deed done under the sun while man rules men to their hurt. This is the terrible human condition of today. God doesn't really know." The conclusion (Ecclesiastes 8:14) Fear God. So we should not expect that corrupt people coming together to form a government would result in righteous rule. We must get ready for sudden evils, and especially for sudden death ( v. 6-8 ). If, for example, people work in the kings palace, they will do what the king says, partly because they have sworn before God to be obedient and partly because they will be punished if they disobey. No man hath power over the spirit That is, over the soul of man; to retain the spirit To keep it in the body beyond the time which God hath allotted to it. There is no man that has power over his spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it ( Ecclesiastes 8:8 ). 1. Sinners herein deceive themselves. You can't escape it. Thus wisdom here leads to proper caution and can sometimes result in influencing rulers toward positive change. The NIV renders the phrase in verses 5 and 6 as proper time and procedure. The New American Commentary notes: The wise man thus waits for the proper moment to make his case or take a stand and does not waste his influence on a lost cause (v. 3b). O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever! Salem Media Group. Add to Wish List Add to Compare. shall be changed. carried out. Dr. Walter Kaiser, whose overall outline weve been following, describes the chapter 8 subsection as follows: The removal of a large proportion of the apparent inequalities in divine providence comes from righteous government. This summary, however, does not appear to be quite accurate. Who is as the wise man? Help for Today, Hope for Tomorrow| Learn more With a UCG.org account you will be able to save items to read and study later! Some see it as a worthless cause, calamitous outcome or anything the king would not like. Ecclesiastes/Song of Solomon - Leaders Guide. The wicked will not ultimately be prolonged, yet the righteous will. The first part of Ecclesiastes 8:3 Ecclesiastes 8:3Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an evil thing; for he does whatever pleases him.American King James Versiontells us not to be quick to leave the ruler. 3. Whoso keeps the commandment shall feel no evil thing: and a wise man's heart discerns both time and judgment. It doesn't matter to God that I lie or I steal or whatever because look, I'm blessed. Others see ruach here as meaning wind, and take the statement to mean that just as the wind is beyond our control, so is death. To live a God-fearing life is to live in constant awareness of the presence of God, who is even closer than a prayer away (pp. Under the sun, man, life is just very shallow and you live life in a very shallow level, and. Verses 12-13 show that beyond the prolonged days of the wicked today, it will be well with those who fear God but not for the wicked who do not. [26] And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoever pleases God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her. Thinks that he has been clever and has hid his sin from God, or worse yet, thinks that God is condoning what he has done. of earthly things there is nothing better than for a man freely We_ have here an image which will not disgrace They've been talking about that for years. Matthew Henry Matthew Henry's Complete Commentary - Ecclesiastes 10:4-11. Now in chapter 8, Solomon tells us to exercise wisdom and righteousness to help reduce and manage problems in many cases, maintain proper perspective and find joy in life and ultimate reward from God. In the person of a sensual man. Romans 13 speaks of rulers executing wrath on evildoers. Read full chapter. That's a fatal mistake to make. So, "Though a sinner do evil a hundred times, and his days be prolonged,". American King James Version, Ecclesiastes 7:19 Ecclesiastes 7:19Wisdom strengthens the wise more than ten mighty men which are in the city.American King James Version). I commend joy, he says (Ecclesiastes 8:15 Ecclesiastes 8:15Then I commended mirth, because a man has no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun.American King James Version), and the word he uses for commend is a Hebrew word for praise (shabach). American King James Version). That you might fear the LORD your God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you, you, and your son, and your son's son, all the days of your life; and that your days may be prolonged. The highest wisdom is Things just continue as they were from the beginning.'" he asks. condition men are; serenity and tranquillity of mind, It is good that you should take hold of this; yes, also from this withdraw not your hand: for he that fears God shall come forth of them all. And one ruling another to that ones own hurt here is evidently a mistranslation. Partner with StudyLight.org as God uses us to make a difference for those displaced by Russia's war on Ukraine. mind, thankfulness for what they have, and a free and comfortab Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the under the sun the best thing to do is just to eat and drink and be merry ( Ecclesiastes 8:15 ): Because man, that's all she wrote. He saw just men to whom it happened according to the work of the wicked, who, notwithstanding their righteousness, suffered very hard things, and continued long to do so, as if they were to be punished for some great wickedness. Then I commended mirth We must get ready for sudden evils, and especially for sudden death (v. 6-8). which God giveth him under the sun; man's present life is under the sun, and is continued as long as it pleases God; though it is but short, rather to be counted by days than years, and is a laborious one; and all that he gets by his labour, enjoyed by him, is to eat and drink cheerfully; and this he may expect to have and continue with him as long as he lives, even food and raiment, and with this he should be content. No man has any power over the spirit. We must keep in due subjection to the government God has set over us (v. 2-5). His reply is not an observation, but the answer of faith. He believes what he cannot seethat one day all will be well for everyone who lives in the fear of God (Ryken, p. 196). Ecclesiastes 8:15 in all English translations. In Solomon's reign the people were very rich, and lived in prosperity, which perhaps made them proud and petulant, and when the taxes were high, though they had enough to pay them with, it is probable that many conducted themselves . He had power over His Spirit to dismiss it. Recall that this comes on the heels of Solomon presenting humanity as corrupt in chapter 7. He believed, even when there was no evidence for believing! (quoted on p. 135). Nay, [3.] All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man rules over another to his own hurt. the righteous often suffer, and the wicked prosper. [17] Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end. It is It's emptiness. [19] Wisdom strengthens the wise more than ten mighty men which are in the city. God's ways are above ours, nor is he tied to his own former ways, but his judgments are a great deep. However, some take visiting the holy place here as having occurred repeatedly during the life of the wicked people now being buried. in actual life. Because to every purpose there is time and judgment, therefore the misery of man is great upon him. Verse 11 explains why evil grows worse and worsebecause justice is not swift. United Church of Godis a501(c)3organization. In order to keep with what He said, "No man takes My life," when He was hanging there on the cross after He cried, "It is finished" ( John 19:30 ), "Father, into Thy hands I commend My Spirit" ( Luke 23:46 ), He bowed His head, and it said, "And He dismissed His Spirit." forgotten, the wicked enjoy honour and long life; the best thing a man Of the fear of God, the need for which we have already seen in the book and will see again in its conclusion (Ecclesiastes 3:14 Ecclesiastes 3:14I know that, whatever God does, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God does it, that men should fear before him.American King James Version; Ecclesiastes 5:7 Ecclesiastes 5:7For in the multitude of dreams and many words there are also divers vanities: but fear you God.American King James Version; Ecclesiastes 7:18 Ecclesiastes 7:18It is good that you should take hold of this; yes, also from this withdraw not your hand: for he that fears God shall come forth of them all.American King James Version; Ecclesiastes 12:13 Ecclesiastes 12:13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.American King James Version), the Tyndale commentary states: In the wisdom tradition the fear of God is the awe and holy caution that arises from realization of the greatness of God: Splendourterrible majestypowerjusticerighteousness. We must arm ourselves against the temptation of an oppressive government and not think it strange (v. 9, 10). with him of his labour the days of his life, which God givet KINGS'COURTS NEED WARY WALKING that vanity to which man has been made subject EXPOSITION Ecclesiastes 8:15 Keil and Delitzsch Biblical Commentary on the Old Testament "And I commended joy, that there is nothing better for a man under the sun than to eat and drink and enjoy himself; and that this accompanies him in his labour throughout all the days of his life, which God hath given him under the sun." His rule must be righteous, though this is often not seen Thinks he has put one over on God. If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantages it me, if the dead rise not? California - Do Not Sell My Personal Information. But this is not where things end. But he also knows that often the opposite is true (14). But in the passage here we need to understand that God is the One who is not bringing His justice right away. is simply that the wicked were able to die and receive a proper burial after a long life without having to face up to what they'd doneall the while having been permitted in life to be regularly in God's temple, a sacrilege and mockery of religion. sun, than (n) to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall . Ecclesiastes 2:24; Ecclesiastes 3:12-13; Ecclesiastes 5:18-19). Where the verse says they were forgotten, many others render this they were praised, reasoning that the positive eulogizing of the wicked after all their evil must be the vanity or frustration mentioned. God's not willing that any should perish but that all should come into repentance. No man has any power over the spirit. 6 Verse 1 extols having wisdom. Let us be ever thankful for the days of our lives. And the word forgotten does work here. In view of these contradictions, Solomon again recommended the enjoyment of life, not in a pleasure-mad way but in the sense of enjoying the fruits of ones labor (cf. Viewed by itself, and apart from its conte ECCLESIASTESNOTE ON ECCLESIASTES 8:14 It is a puzzling VANITY that 2:24; Ecclesiastes 3:12; Ecclesiastes 3:22; Ecclesiastes 5:17). Solomon in Proverbs 10:7 Proverbs 10:7The memory of the just is blessed: but the name of the wicked shall rot.American King James Versionwrote, The memory of the righteous is blessed, but the name of the wicked will rot. 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